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Afghanistan, the End of the Occupation and the LeftOnline event by ISO and the marx21 network (Germany) with Nancy Lindisfarne and Jonathan Neale (UK)Wednesday 6 October, 6pm Ireland and Britain 7pm CET

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Afghanistan, the End of the Occupation and the Left
Online event by ISO and the marx21 network (Germany) with Nancy Lindisfarne and Jonathan Neale (UK)
Wednesday 6 October, 6pm Ireland and Britain 7pm CET


Join Zoom meeting: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81981905958, Meeting ID: 819 8190 5958 With translations ‒ Dari, German and English


The Taliban have defeated the United States of America imperialism and its allies in Afghanistan. The eyes of the world witnessed an event which is part of a shift and reordering of international power structures.


Anthropologist Nancy Lindisfarne and activist-author Jonathan Neale published a detailed article on the return of the Taliban a few days after the “fall of Kabul” on 15 August. It has received much attention, some of it controversial. We invited the two experts and comrades, who have known Afghanistan well for more than 40 years, to the debate.
What does the victory of the Taliban in Afghanistan mean? Why was Kabul conquered so quickly? What is happening to Afghan women now and why do so many Afghans support the Taliban? How should the left itself in view of this?


The Taliban have defeated the United States of America imperialism and its allies in Afghanistan. The eyes of the world witnessed an event which is part of a shift and reordering of international power structures.


Article “Return of the Taliban: The end of the occupation” in German:
https://www.marx21.de/rueckkehr-taliban-ende-besatzung-afghanistan/ https://intersoz.org/nach-der-afghanistan-besatzung-deshalb-sind-die-taliban-wieder-da/
Article in original: https://annebonnypirate.org/2021/08/17/afghanistan-the-end-of-the-occupation/ Website of Nancy and Jonathan: https://annebonnypirate.org/. Theses from the essay:

  • First, the Taliban have defeated the United States.
  • Second, the Taliban have won because they have more popular support.
  • Third, this is not because most Afghans love the Taliban. It is because the American occupation has been unbearably cruel and corrupt.
  • Fourth, the War on Terror has also been politically defeated in the United States. The majority of Americans are now in favor of withdrawal from Afghanistan and against any more foreign wars.
  • Fifth, this is a turning point in world history. The greatest military power in the world has been defeated by the people of a small, desperately poor country. This will weaken the power of the American empire all over the world.
  • Sixth, the rhetoric of saving Afghan women has been widely used to justify the occupation, and many feminists in Afghanistan have chosen the side of the occupation. The result is a tragedy for feminism.


New contribution by Nancy Lindisfarne and Jonathan Neale: “Afghanistan ‒ The Climate Crisis”,
https://annebonnypirate.org/2021/09/15/weaponizing-climate-change-in-afghanistan/
Internationale Sozialistische Organisation (ISO) ‒ https://intersoz.org/ Netzwerk marx21 ‒ https://marx21.de

See also :

https://internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article7285&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3wU0Um8jY37xdH7jLPweIscgI8yloT1O2tnydssA9K3QjxRVhexvGgiBI

On the Fall of Kabul

A note from Pierre Rousset :

We can learn much more about the ideological evolution of the Taliban if we look at their history. See in particular this article:

http://www.europe-solidaire.org/spip.php?article59296

Pakistani comrades consider this analysis to be well founded.

Not only is the Taliban a fundamentalist religious movement, but it has become “radicalized” with Wahhabism and has broken with its own origins, according to this article.

To the question, has the Taliban changed, Farooq Sulheria answers “no”:

http://www.europe-solidaire.org/spip.php?article59299

And supports the resistance, especially of women:

http://www.europe-solidaire.org/spip.php?article59300

The « angle of view” of the progressive Pakistanis is enlightening, because there is a permanent interaction between the two countries (the Pakistani secret services sat in the Taliban assemblies in Afghanistan!) and various Taliban movements act on both sides of the borders.

We know enough to consider that the adjective “anti-imperialist” in the case of the Taliban is not very rigorous, and we should not underestimate the depth of the consequences on a society of the domination of such a fundamentalist current.

I would be happy if history were to disprove my “realism”, but I fear that this will not be the case.

The Gombeen-Poltroon Response of the Irish Government to the Taliban Victory in Afghanistan

Nine Irish Army Rangers went to Kabul Airport!

Gombeen-Poltroon advice was offered to Foreign Affairs Minister Simon Coveney : Kildare South Poltroon Dr Cathal Berry got his wish.

“The Government is sending military special forces to Afghanistan to help facilitate the evacuation of remaining Irish citizens.

The group of nine Army Rangers and two Department of Foreign Affairs officials are expected to leave as soon as this evening.

They will be based at the main airport in Kabul to liaise with other international military personnel.”

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0823/1242342-irish-afghanistan-leave/

On August 18 the Irish Times reported :

“Meanwhile, Independent TD and former Army Ranger, Cathal Berry has called on Ireland to deploy special forces to Kabul airport to coordinate the extraction of Irish citizens.

Speaking on RTÉ radio’s Today show, he said up to 12 members of the Army Ranger wing could be sent without requiring the resolution of the Dáil. “They could be there within 24 hours,” he added.

Dr Berry said it was very important for all nations to facilitate the exit of their citizens, they needed to be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

He suggested the Rangers could embed with UK forces, as they have done in the past on other missions. At present there were members of the Ranger wing in Mali, embedded with German troops on a similar mission.”

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/number-of-irish-citizens-seeking-to-flee-afghanistan-rises-to-33-1.4649969?mode=amp

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